the obama enthusiasm didn't get there in 2008. if they jump ship from the obama coat tails, they grabbed on to them to win elections. >> they led the demographics of the president's supporters without the baggage. >> very quigley the primary challenges. are we surprised that more hasn't popped up. he ducked a challenge although anything is possible. >> some of the times these are moderate versus conservative or establishment versus anti-establishment. >> mississippi will be the center of that fight with wyoming ins it category. >> in terms of luger and oren hatch, depending on how long they have been in office, how seriously do they take the primaries in the beginning. that's when they start to get in more trouble. >> when do we know if the maps have been expanded. republicans are talking about minnesota and michigan and throwing in states like that. even with udahl. when do we know if they have been expanded? >> colorado especially a state that is supposed to be a bell river. they have been notoriously weak. to see what happens i